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Stolen art sold at conventions

Journal Entry: Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:03 PM








Hey guys! I had a great time at SacAnime but while I was there, I saw a vendor's booth called Hidden Supplies selling sakimichan's Kakashi painting Younger Kakashi by sakimichan




I asked her if she gave permission for this or not, and sure enough, she didn't. I think it's safe to say that the rest of the $25 mats sold at the booth were also using stolen art, but I don't recognize any of the artists. Here are some photos of the booth and all the mats are also listed on their website www.hiddensupplies.com/index.p…. Please take a look and report the images you recognize to the respective artists so that they may take the proper legal actions against these these people. Thank you! :hug:












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Alyxena Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2015  Student General Artist
I guess theres good and bad things about being able to save an and every image on the internet with a right click.
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purstotahti Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2015  Professional General Artist
Wow!
Words cannot describe how bad I feel for those original artist.
If someone picks a job as artist (in any art form) must tighten belt and work like a horse to make living. 
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Illuminatedharmony Featured By Owner Edited Aug 23, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
This is why I am hesitating and probably won't put any of my art on here-How do i know some douche bag in europe or in the states or anywhere won't steal from it? Its the risk you guys all have made and idk if i can risk my work without any copyrights yet-haha no 
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mangakadubkat Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2014  Student Digital Artist
That's terrible. I mean I can kind of understand buying a painting or picture (DA print) and then wanting to sell it because you don't want it any more. But selling copies and prints of it yourself (especially with no given rights or consent from the artist) is totally WRONG. Do what chibi-rai-chan said here. Email them. Tell them what happened. They'll sort it out. 
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Chibi-Rai-Chan Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2013
Contact Jodon Bellofatto, and his e-mail address is sac.program.director@gmail.com Have the booth name and number from the program to help get it removed and them in trouble
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ZoMbIeSrAwR Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
With cases like this sometimes I can't help but wonder do the know what they are doing is wrong? I mean the Internet is full with morons with more discovering it every day. Sometimes I think these people just might be stupid enough to think hat just because they found something on the Internet they can use it for whatever they want. It's a shame really...I would love to make a bunch of playmate but I'm not about to steal someone else's hard work to make a profit for myself.
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nicolashun Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2013
:3 i had always thought you did that kakashi painting
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DemonAngel6 Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2013  Student General Artist
I hate how I recognize some of these...
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RoarofTheDragon Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Assassination mode: ON
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:iconnuei:
Nuei Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Daer god, this is so bad :(
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Arinalover-cindy Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This happens in the AniCom convention in Hong Kong all the time....
it's sad...
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Ninjacat234 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well they took it down now, but to try and make a profit out of something that is so unbelievably stupid.....
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EagleTsubasa Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Permission should have been asked. This is just wrong and it's a breach of copyright.
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TheFanFicAuthor Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
No matter where the art came from, the original artist must still receive credit for that work and receive a profit from it. Also, God, people, ask for permission first!

Business is just corrupt like that.
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TkieSai Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013
Thats just....
Most of the art aren't even the same style....people are stupid
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YumeReaver Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
THAT'S TERRIBLE!
Once I saw man who sale T-shirt with Mona Lisa, so I called the police.
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Pein-and-Sakura Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013
mona lisa is not copyright though, it's open domain
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YumeReaver Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013
*sarcasm*
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Pein-and-Sakura Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013
so what do you mean? that these people shouldn't complain because someone use their art?

unlike mona lisa these art are COPYRIGHT
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riamisu Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Student Digital Artist
this...is...sad...
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LittleMeep Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Student Photographer
wow...
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MacKaylion Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013
I went and checked on their website for hiddensupplies.com and if you click mat in the search they still come up! Also the home screen scrolling banner flashes the images of the stolen art and also encourage people to save a copy of the artists' work and to upload it to them so they can make a mat. Or you can give a description of what you want and then they probably pa-ruse deviantart and steal the work.
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MacKaylion Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013
I can't believe this! I love sakimichan's work and to know that someone is selling their work without permission is uncalled for. If I want a print of someone's own work I would prefer to go right to the source than purchase from people who steal other's art.
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sacrowe Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
I tried using the link but it says that that category is no longer available. I tried looking around for these products but no luck. I have a feeling that all this attention that has been draw to it by you has caused the runners of the website to take down that category to avoid a law suit.
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abstractbizaare Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
sheesh.... >:p
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ReneTheArtist Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I'd still buy.
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Illuminatedharmony Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
??? When people buy stolen art it helps encourage thieves only more. why would you do that?
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hikaridemon Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
OMG!!!! Not cool!
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Chungphantomhive Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013
MAKES ME SO MADDDDDDDDD oh well evidently they have taken the images down so yayayyyy
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DumbleDoraTheExplora Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Stealing art?! RUDE!
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BluSilvrPaladin Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
The Website has since removed all these images from their sale. Looks like dA won this one!
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necrophyte Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013
Hi guys.

There is such a thing as a reverse image search that allows you to search for all, well, almost all, the places on the internet on which a certain image is posted if you have that image, or even just a fraction of it. Several of my favorites are:

Google Images ([link]) for pieces I suspect I can find on deviantART,

ascii2d ([link]) for pieces I suspect I can find on pixiv,

and Tineye ([link]).

Learn to use these in your quests for justice. I regularly use them to find the sources/artists of images/artworks I stumble across on image boards and the like.
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AccidentallyHipster Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013
I'll just add on to your comment that for Google Images, click the camera icon on the search bar [ a lot of people neglect to notice that and therefore miss that feature of Google |D ]
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necrophyte Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013
Thanks. Guess I should have added tips.

The other thing that's nice about Google Images is that you can narrow your search with keywords, which can be entered in the search bar next to your image after the initial search for the image. Sometimes Google Images will choose keywords for you, but it doesn't help on some occasions. I usually change it to 'deviantart', especially for images that have been shared a lot and thus give a lot of non-source links in the search results.

For images that have such things added to it like borders and text and/or if the image for which you are looking for the source is part of an amalgamation of other images, I'd suggest cropping the unwanted features of image and/or cropping the wanted image out so the input image for searching is as close as possible to the original even if it becomes just a fraction of it, which helps in my experience for all the reverse search engines.
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RainTide Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I recognize a few art, but I can't tell which is from.
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Vail-Combat-Irtis Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Student General Artist
It's not the first time. A few years ago (like 6-7) I've spotted art of some of my favourite artists from DA. But I didn't take pics, just reported the discovery to the authors with question whether they gave somebody a permission to sell posters with their artworks. What's interesting, most of them didn't react, perhaps because the event took place faaaaar away from authors' countries.
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GrayEngel Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Student General Artist
you should have taken a picture of their face and be like bitch police!
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PervyKai Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013
soo many art thief these day......
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sk3pt1k Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This is really sad and all; But really, how many of those commenting has never downloaded or streamed a movie online? Same principle really. Just don't be hypocrites
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setsuka13 Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013
Its not really the same. Using one of those pictures as your desktop background without permission would be closer to your analogy. Downloading movies, burning them to CDs and selling them for your own profit is closer to this unfortunate situation :C
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Piuu-chan Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
Furthermore, I'm sure the person selling these would never admit they found them on X, Y or Z site and decided to print them off. They probably didn't give credit to the artist at all, and may or may not have claimed the art as their own, may or may not have edited out watermarks or signatures. People pirating music or movies will never claim it to be theirs; credit is obviously given to anyone who was involved in making the movie.

Many artists did not intend for their art to be sold into the hands of others in the first place. And many DA artists are relatively unknown compared to movie directors or cast, so the marginal impact is probably somewhat greater for the artist.

It is obviously slightly hypocritical, however I do not think the cases are so black and white or so similar that you can apply such a simple analogy and call them the same. There are many different factors involved in both this case, and in the film industry.
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sk3pt1k Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Agreed. I just get really annoyed when some deviants are going apeshit over this. And, maybe not even aware of the hypocrisy they do express. And, I'm not saying that everyone is being like that, but I'm guessing a few atleast :p I just hope that people think about the subject before going into full-fledged interwebs war. Also, I appreciate your opinion :)
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sk3pt1k Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't want to be trolling, but I don't really see why it matters :p Like this guy/girl beneath wrote "this is HORRIBLE the (original) artist really put efford in that painting, why would they just steal it?!" How many directors and etc. doesnt feel like that when people are pirating? And dont get me wrong, I'm a pirate and I just want people to be honest. It's kind of hypocritical if people REALLY think there is a difference between stealing a physical DVD or downloading one; Because you're still not paying those who made it.
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theArTBomB Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
im a different kind of pirate....if i have the money 2 spend on it and i like the product/goods/entertainment then i will... no one should have 2 pay for a product or any form of entertainment that they feel is not good.. so with that said this is different...profit is involved...me personally as a movie director or musician i wouldnt be mad at piracy...cause most of those people(like me) are broke and wouldnt have had the opportunity to extend our support even if we wanted 2...now u are right but i believe as a "true pirate" nobody should be making profits from pirated goods....and that is the difference in the situation...if somebody jacked my art for personal pleasure then cool...im glad that they appreciate it!Q...but when profits and money are involved its a whole different story...u are slightly right but also slightly wrong 2 use the "hypocritical" term.
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sk3pt1k Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, I totally see your point, and I do feel the same way. I use the term "hypocritical" because it's the word I find most fitting really. Especially when people, like for instance some of these comments, claim that this is dead wrong, when they're not even aware of that it goes both ways. It's like being a communist untill you get rich, for example. Just want to enlighten some of those that are commenting. Not saying that what I'm saying is the correct thing, but think it over before raging. But again, I completely agree with your opinion, dude :*
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theArTBomB Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
yea same here... even though i stated my side, i still see your intelligence for mentioning that kind of relation..i just seen a certain perspective after reading your words
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Surirasu Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Student General Artist
And this is one of the reasons I hesitate when putting some of my drawings online.... -_-
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BlightOfClouds Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Student General Artist
As long as you have the original and can prove it's yours you should be safe, these freaks never last long.
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